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Orphaned Litter (almost)

One of the biggest worries in whelping is to have your dam die at birth, or next worse... to reject, or kill her puppies.

This particular litter is almost equal to an orphaned litter. Sassy, the English Mastiff Dam, is refusing to clean and potty her puppies. She is not aggressive towards them and is not rejecting them totally, she is tolerating them. She will allow them to feed, if the pups are manually placed on her teats, however she shows no interest in them. I was hoping if the pups suckled, that her hormones would kick in, but we are on day 5, and still zero interest.
 
Even if I had a Dam that just refused to clean and potty her puppies, I could at least leave the puppies with her all night to keep warm, stimulate, and feed, then potty in the am.

I cannot do this. Many breeds cannot stay with their puppies, as they could purposely kill them, or accidentally kill them in this case, because of the size of the dam.

I must take the pups away, and give them to her every 2 hours.
 
Even if I had a GREAT Dam with little milk, I could at least leave them all night, and do supplementing in the day.
 
This litter is presenting the breeder with a similar challenge, as an orphaned litter.
 
She has milk,  But cannot be left alone with the puppies,
nor will she stimulate, or potty them.
 
This means,  a committed breeder, must put a whole lot more into this litter than ever imagined, being Robbed of a once welcomed act, called sleeping.
 
Every 2 hours, (and each feeding takes an hour),
She must take the pups out of the warm box, and put on the dam. (with this litter, there are only 9 teats, and 11 puppies), so she needs to rotate, and top up with supplemented canine milk.

 

Then she needs to gently massage the vulva and penis, to make them potty,

Manually helping a puppy poop and pee

Then she needs to massage the anus to make them poop.

It's a messy job! But someone's got to do it!

This is very time consuming, a messy job and mentally and draining.

Wet Ones, every breeders best friend

If you don't have convenient access to a sink, you can use the wet wipes to clean your hands before pottying each puppy. Occasionally you may need to use them to clean up a puppy bum, (make sure they are baby wipes, meant to clean a babies bum). Floor wipes should not be used on the puppy bums.

Sassy calmly lays back and watches her humans do her job

Sassy calmly lays back and watches her humans do her job

Sassy calmly lays back and watches her humans do her job

In a case like this, where a human is keeping track, not the dam, EVERY puppy needs to be identified, I am using colored ribbon, as the tails are too dark to color.  
 
Even with a Dam in total control It is wise to identify the puppies, so when you weigh them, you know who is gaining what.

Every step of the way must be recorded, to make sure no puppy or the dam is being neglected.

WE are winning!

  17th 18th 19th 20th 21st 28th Nickname
Red boy 614 634 628 640 714 1118 Pluto
Green boy 658 644 622 680 720 1144 Chip
Yellow boy 700 692 672 730 802 1134 Moose
               
Pink girl 614 600 620 652 694 1100 Minnie
Green girl 514 522 522 574 636 932 Lady
Red girl 588 580 548 598 670 1030 Tinkerbell
White girl 534 514 508 534 594 908 Alice
Aqua girl 620 612 624 688 736 1050 Daisy
Orange girl 502 500 526 544 614 968 Lilo
Brown girl 434 446 452 498 522 910 Thumbelina
Black girl 510 518 528 544 638 1000 Cinderella

500 g = 17.5 oz
600 g = 21 oz
700 g = 24.5 oz
800g = 28 oz


 

I put Catreeya, a Havanese dam, in the guest room, and moved the blue kennel back, and put in is place, a big Rubbermaid bin.
I then gave her 2 pups, at a time + 2 + 2 + 2 till she had them all.

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Catreeya came in and got them all exercised up.

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

She was willing to nurse them, or let them try. She lifted up her leg.

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

She was very accommodating, licked all their heads, but didn't' go for bums, but I had just done that. She got them good and exercised and moving.

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

Sassy, the Mastiff was up on her feet, wondering, WHAT was up, so I let her go look, hoping she would be jealous. And she saw Catreeya, greeted her, kissed her, and thought.

OH... OK... go ahead, keep doing whatever you are doing, thanks and Sassy went back in her room. without the pups.

Catreeya, a Havanese Dam Foster Mothering English Mastiff Puppies

I may use Catreeya at night, to keep the puppies company, too bad she didn't have milk.

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Today's problem, we are dealing with constipation

WELL,, NOW they are all constipated.

They need heat, but it can dehydrate them, so... do you turn the heat down, and risk fading syndrome, or deal with it.

Too much heat, can cause constipation, too little heat can cause death. (WAY to much heat can also cause Death)

It took me from 7:30 till 9:22 to feed them and try to get them all to poo, they hadn't pood since this am. Yesterday, I tried a bottle of water, and a drop of oil, but it wasn't working. Poos' were pasty.

Nature works soooooo well, when it does all for you.

Anyway,
I had to give them (9 of 11 of them), a nice warm enema and lickety split, all pooped..

This is so much work, just like having quintuplets!

 

In the end of all this, these puppies will be Better than ever, because they have been mainly hand reared, using the dams milk. The hands on that these puppies are getting will make them exceptional pets, and worth all the effort.

 

DAY 6,

She licked and kissed 3 puppies... in a very small way, but she is falling for them...

Last night was brutal.

I fed them at 9pm, finishing at 9:30, if I just potty them,

Then they wanted to eat at 11pm ,
Then 1am,
Then they wouldn't settle, at 2am they were just scampering and screaming, finally at 2:30am I fed them again, and spent the hour to top them all up with a bottle, so I was done at 3:30, and they slept till 7 ish; so I got to sleep from about 3:45am till 7:00am.. 3.25 hours.

FRIENDS, at times like this, it sure is nice to know you have some. (grin)

 

Courtesy of MistyTrails Mastiff's

Although this section is based on a whelping of an English Mastiff, it also contains good general whelping information in large breed dogs. You can find more whelping information in the links above. The links below tell a story about Sassy, an English Mastiff. Sassy has a wonderful temperament. She loves humans and Adores human children. An all around mild mannered, wonderful Mastiff. Sassy however is not the best mother towards her puppies, she is not rejecting them, she will nurse them when a human places them on her to feed, however she will not clean the pups or pay any attention to them. It is as if, they are not her puppies. This litter is getting moms milk, with major human interaction, manually giving each and every pup what they need. In return, the pups will be super socialized and will make remarkable pets, however the work involved is astounding. It takes one dedicated breeder to keep this situation healthy. Thankfully this litter has just that, a dedicated breeder. Read the links below to get the full story. There is a wealth of info that everyone can appreciate and benefit from.

C-Section in a Large Breed Dog

Newborn Puppies... What you need

Whelping Mastiff Puppies One to Three Days Old

Things do not always go as planned (imperforate anus)

Orphaned Litter (not the plan)

10 Days Old Plus ++

3 Week Old Puppies

Puppies 3 Weeks - time to start potty training

Puppies 4 weeks old

Puppies 5 weeks old

Puppies 6 weeks old

Puppies 7 weeks old

Socializing the Puppies

Mastitis in Dogs

Whelping Large Breed Dogs Main

Whelping, a new found respect

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So you want to breed

Pros and Cons of Inbreeding

To Breed or Not To Breed?

Reproduction: (The Heat Cycle) - Signs of Heat

Breeding - Tie

Pregnancy Guide PRE-Natal Care

Pregnant Dams

Full Term Mucus Plug

Whelping

Whelping Kit

First and Second Stage of Labor

Third Stage of Labor

Sometimes things do not go as planned

Dam Almost Dies on Day 6

Water (Walrus) Puppies

C-Sections

Dam Day 62

PostPartum

Birth to 3 weeks

Pups 3 Weeks - time to start potty training

Week 4

Week 5

Week 6

6 to 7.5 Weeks

8 Weeks

8 to 12 Weeks

Whelping Large Breed Dogs

Mastitis in Dogs

Why are Toy breeds are harder to train?

Crate Training

Showing, Genetics and Breeding

Saving a Puppy

Whelping Stories - Three Puppies Born

Whelping - All puppies do not always survive

Whelping Puppies - A Midwoof Call

Whelping a Singleton

Whelping Puppies Picture Pages

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Whelping, Close to text book case

Puppies Progress Chart

Cuban Mysti Puppies - Full Term Mucus Plug - 1

Cuban Mysti Puppies - Labor Story - 2

Cuban Mysti Puppies - Labor Story 3

Cuban Mysti Puppies - One Day Old Pups - 4

 
 
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